"The crop circle is no more than a marking on the ground -- and a temporary one at that. Its shape and content and method of delivery disturbs some agency, somewhere, to the point of urgency. The crop circle is public property, arriving unannounced and unwelcome so far as the unknown agency is concerned. There is no control over the crop circle, and therefore it has to be reduced to ineffectiveness through whatever disinformation program distorted human minds can devise."
Centre for Crop Circle Studies, U.S. Network
The eloquent Walter Starck chimes in on Crop Circles: Quest for Truth
Read about tree circles
Geometry that can't be hoaxed -- Bert Janssen.
Unknown source knocks your socks off with circlemaker speculations.
A jungle circle.
Appreciation about the summer of 2001, when "CROP CIRCLES: Quest for Truth" was born.
Zef Damon reconstructs the geometry of crop patterns and thinks deeply about their significance.
National Geographic TV channel debunks crop circles.
|Suzanne writes to Zef:
I love your reconstructions. I am in England for the summer, producing a feature documentary on the circles. The movie is by the man who did the Oscar nominated "WACO," William Gazecki, who loves the circles. Hopefully it will inform the world that we have a genuine phenomenon. Are you coming to England at all? We would love to talk to you for the film. We will be here till the end of August.
Thanks so much for your beautiful work. I'd love to know how you got so smart, how you became interested in the circles, and what you think they are all about.
Thank you for your kind words! We (my family and I) have been in England for holiday, 31 July - 14 August. What a pity that we left the day after you sent your email (which I only read when we were at home again). I have seen your Website and I'm impressed. It is good to see you take the crop circle phenomenon seriously.
The first time I heard about crop circles was during a lecture of Benjamin Creme about the reappearance of Maitreya (see my Website for my view of it, and for references), back in 1991. The "Doug and Dave story" was front page news, and Benjamin showed (in his characteristic, catching way) how ridiculous their claim was. His story about the reappearance of the Masters of Wisdom into the daily world, for me, is the most acceptable view about the origin of crop circles, since he puts it in a much wider context. I'll be happy to share my thoughts about it with you, but that will take some time. In order not to delay this answer, I'll send it you now, and within a number of days I'll try to come back again.
It is a shame we missed you. I am surprised you are not exchanging thoughts with the other people who do geometry work, and I'd liked to have filmed you with some of the others. I love what you do and would welcome anything you have to say about it. I'm familiar with Benjamin Creme, but even if you like his story, the phenomenon is still a mystery that will reveal itself -- or won't -- and will or won't conform to what anyone says about it. Anybody who claims to have the absolute bottom line seems silly to me, since we can't see that line. And it doesn't seem necessary to see the source -- we can just deal with its footprints, which are so inspirational and educational to us. Do you see the phenomenon taking us beyond where our designers and mathematicians go?
As promised, I'll come back trying to line up some of my thoughts about crop circles. As I told you, I mainly follow Benjamin Creme. I think the majority of crop circles are made by our "Space Brothers," mostly from Venus and Mars. The most convincing element is that there is no "hard evidence." It is not for the space brothers nor the masters of wisdom to prove they are there, helping us evolve. It is up to us to change our minds, to see (and learn to know) who we really are, to look behind the ordinary common things, to stop quarrelling about everything, polarizing the whole world. Do we really know so much? Do we for instance know what (or who) is making a simple tiny buttercup so intensely yellow? The main reason for me to make reconstructions of crop circle formations (besides that I am fond of patterns, geometry and the like) is to make people (and myself!) look a second time -- to stop "knowing" (for the time being) and to try to look and see and perceive. One thing I perceive is, there is something (someone?) else here (like the buttercup). And I love it! It's beautiful! It's me, out there!
What I very much would like to know (I wish I could penetrate deep into it) is how different patterns relate to different kinds (or forms?) of energy. Why are some patterns so beautiful and sparkling, while others are so dull or far too smooth? What defines the tension in a pattern? Is it the mutual relationship between the components? (Of course! What else could it be?) Distance, skewed-ness, (relative) length, ratio, boldness, intersections, squareness, resonance perhaps? What music does a pattern make? With the crop circle patterns, I found that many of them have some kind of little "trick." Often, it happens that I think I have found the geometry, straight forward, and then it doesn't fit. It's not correct, it must be different, I have to change. See for instance my reconstruction of the 2000 Silbury Hill (2) formation at step 6a, which is resolved at step 10. These kinds of "recoveries" are common, but most of them not quite visible (I would have to give the history of how I found the reconstruction).
So far, just a number of thoughts. Much more can be said -- about the role of light as basis for our physical world instead of space and time (from which space and time could be "generated"); about the absolute perfect that cannot be perceived; about the ease with which many people (especially in "new-age circles") use words like dimension, frequency, energy, magnetism, which, at least in physics, have profound meanings; about the extraordinary important time of history we live in, etc. I hope I have given some idea of my ideas! By the way, I think exchange of ideas is of utmost importance. Being able to openly show one's view of things and being taken seriously is a very good thing. However, a lot of energy is going into disputes, polarizing people and creating camps. It is not my favorite. I prefer to give my energy to reconstructions and "let them speak for themselves."
I recognize so much of myself in what you say. I, too, think they are helping us evolve. A wholeness is being offered for us to lift ourselves to. I look at whatever discord people might generate the way I look at hoaxers. There's real value to be gleaned, and it isn't in arguments or hoaxing.
I was surprised at your enthusiasm for Benjamin Crème. After he was wrong about his initial forecast, it surprises me he is still on the scene. What makes you think he's on the mark? And how would you have any sense of where the circlemakers come from? That seems to me to be an impenetrable mystery.
I entertain a fantasy that we are a little test group -- a potential that exists in this circumscribed field, where the challenge and the opportunity involves our coming into alignment. As long as we behave in the contentious way that the rest of humanity proceeds, we get no closer to the circlemakers, but, if we were to come into alignment, they would somehow reward us. It was with this thought that I went to England this summer, to create a gathering place where we could become a cooperative entity. With who showed up there, we achieved success -- akin to our crop circle listserve, where people feed each other -- but many people didn't come. Some were far enough away to make it understandable -- although others traveled surprisingly great distances. But some just weren't interested in alignment, just as many of the researchers have remained uninterested in the listserve. God love all of the lovers of the circles, but I think this maintenance of separation misses an opportunity. And then, of course, we have hoaxers and friends of hoaxers, who I think of like terrorists. There is no alignment to be had with those people.
The kinds of things you talk about I think are fascinating, and I'd love to hear more. Would you write for publication about what very few others would be capable of saying? This is an off the wall idea, but I wonder if there could be a book where more than one geometry person contributes. I have a manuscript from Nick Kollerstrom that I've sent to the publisher (who happens to be my nephew) who did Eltjo Hasselhoff's book, which has teachings about the geometry, that lacks for the kind of perceptions you have, not to mention the incredible constructions you do. I could see the two of you in the same book, and then perhaps others. It could be a smashing book, the likes of which isn't out there, coming from a few of you writing chapters.
I thank you so much for the awesome contribution you make. I don't see how you can figure these things out -- and it was interesting to get a glimpse of your process on that Silbury Hill formation.
Dr. Henry Monteith, Mathematics Professor at Eastern New Mexico University writes:
Thank you very much for the crop circle information and Websites. Gosh, that has to be the most awesome crop circle ever created! It is hard to believe that the appearance of such a circle formation did not get the attention that it deserved from the world's governments and press. The only conclusion is that an international conspiracy is most definitely in place to keep the world's people in ignorance of the fact that the entire universe is filled with highly intelligent life forms that are attempting to communicate with the people of earth.
Are you aware of the tremendous efforts being made by Dr. Steven Greer with his 'Project Disclosure? ( If you have not kept up with Steven Greer's efforts, you can read about it at disclosureproject.org.) He has gathered together more than 400 retired military, government, and intelligence officers who have pledged to testify before Congress concerning their knowledge of our government's contact with highly evolved aliens and their recovery of spacecraft and alien bodies. The most important of these retired officials is a close friend of mine and he lives right here in Roswell, New Mexico. He was on the Army's Retrieval team and personally removed dead aliens from a crashed spacecraft and helped a still living one to escape!!
Steven held a news conference in Washington on May 9, 2001, and 21 of these people testified at the conference, asking for a Congressional hearing on the subject of UFOs. So far, this has been resisted by Congress, and the news conference itself was not very highly publicized by our main news media such as ABC, CBS, and NBC. Indeed, my brother-in-law who lives in Washington D.C. did not even hear about the news conference! There was only a little coverage of it on Internet news.
I am now becoming very concerned about the mental, spiritual and ethical deterioration of the American people because, in spite of the fact that they have been bombarded for many years with almost endless evidence of the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life -- and the testimony of hundreds of credible observers -- their curiosity has not been stimulated and they seem to have no real desire to know the real truth about UFO's and to comprehend of their existence and purpose in this Universe! If this kind of thing had come forth over 60 years ago, the strong hearted American people of that day would have marched on Washington to get at the truth! American people are becoming more and more apathetic and ignorant; for example, the student body of MIT now consists of more than 70% foreigners and the percentage of American students majoring in the sciences, especially Physics and Engineering, is falling rapidly! So if the interest in science is declining, most certainly their interest in the Universe at large, and their desire to know their place in it, is rapidly falling!
This decline in mental development is strongly apparent in my mathematics classes. Daily, I find myself looking into blank, apathetic faces with minds that find it very difficult to grasp the simplest mathematical concept even when it is explained in terms of things that happen to them in their everyday lives. The majority of students entering college today have very little drive, initiative, incentive and desire to know. They are coming to school mostly because someone told them that it was necessary if they wanted to get a better job. The only real reason for going to school is that one has a great desire to know and to improve themselves; however, this motivation is present only in a very small percentage of our students and that motivation is in rapid decline. The technological competence of America is now being maintained almost exclusively by students who have been educated in foreign countries. As Nobel Prize winner Sheldon Glashow said: "Americans cannot hack it, foreign students are the solution, not the problem!" I am afraid that our country is now in decline and the lack of interest in what is taking place with UFOs and crop circles is strong proof of this fact.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I wasn't aware of what you are talking about re students. I have no doubt of how accurate your representation is, and I'm very familiar with what Greer is doing. Fascinating that you know the important person who had a first hand experience. Hmmm. Is there some more play to be had with him? Is there any chance that he's not telling the truth?
Well, nobody promised us a rose garden. So then what to do? I just keep focused on where to from here, knowing I've been blessed with awareness and that that presents an obligation to lead the parade. I just keep my sites on "the small group of thoughtful citizens who can change the world," according to the oft quoted Margaret Mead. That I can focus on. And there's work to be done in our backyard. I look to put smart people together, where two heads are better than one. Now I'm thinking about how to frame dialogues that are essentially about crop circles, with circle researchers sitting with the likes of Nobel Prize winners getting aha's before our eyes.
Irv Thomas writes:
Right on, Suzanne...except I think it more likely that they are just so embedded in their anti-crop circles mentality, along with their conditioned assumptions as to what form a reply would take, that their brains are frozen. (Only a few degrees of difference, on a circular scale, from fried brains).
It reminds me of that old tale about the fellow who brought a talking dog to a vaudeville proprietor, seeking a booking. The manager asked for a demonstration, and then denied the request, for the reason that the dog had terrible grammar.
Thanks for posting all this material, which I have passed along on my own circuit to those I know would be interested. Have you heard of the Website, earthfiles.com?
Thanks, Irv, I hadn't known about Linda Moulton Howe's Earthfiles site. That's a nice little summary she wrote in her "Headline News" section that I'd have directed people to if I'd known about it. Isn't is strange to be sitting in plain view of such hot stuff and watch the indifference to it? What a lesson in the way things are...
Walter Francis writes:
Back in the 1950's, I had a business that took me to the jungles of Colombia and Brazil. At THAT time I was in the animal business. Treking through the jungles one hot and humid day, I looked up and saw this most beautiful reptile, A Colombian Emerald Tree Boa. It must have recently shed its skin as it was a most beautiful iridescence of green the likes of which I have never seen on any Colombian Emerald Tree Boa. I just had to have that specimen and was prepared to climb the tree if necessary to capture it. I proceeded to do just that and started my climb. The snake was about 60' - 70' above ground, and, as I just kept looking up as I climbed to keep the snake in view, I reached its position and grabbed it. Being tired and hot, I thought to rest for a moment on a nearby branch. Looking around, I could see an open field clearly about 100' from where I rested and could see an imprint of sorts on the grass. From where I was it was clearly seen as a rectangular (about 10' x 30') with two others, smaller and then again smaller inside. It was something I have never seen in my life -- before or since.
Descending the tree, I forgot my excitement over the Boa and upon reaching the ground headed over to the field of 12" to 18" high grass. I must say I was very disappointed as it did not have the nice sharp look as it appeared to me while up the tree. I forgot all about it until I went on the Internet about 3 years ago and started to read about such phenomenon. Do you really believe there is an intelligence behind Crop Circles? As far back as I can remember (I'll be 70 next birthday) I've ALWAYS had a strong belief that the Earth itself is a living entity and only allows us its use as far as we don't do unnecessary damage to it. Are there ANY genuine Crop Circles in New England? I hope you can give me, to the best of your knowledge, an answer to the questions I asked.
I don't know about New England, but I'll post your email on our crop circle listserve to see if anyone knows. We do get a few in the States every year, but I've never heard of one in New England. Of course, the really good ones are almost all in England -- some pretty good ones in Germany and the Netherlands, and a smattering of others all over the world.
What a delicious story you have. And it sounds like it matches the phenomenon in that some formations that appear spectacular from the air look ratty up close -- not all, but some. Many are sharp, as if made with cookie cutters. What is unfamiliar in what you report is the shape. At this point, they come in all sorts of patterns, but until the 90's, all that have been reported were circles. But let's see what some of the old-time researchers from England have to say about your whole story, which I'm sure they will love.
Everything I do concerns helping the shift of consciousness move along, and the crop circles are what I believe stand the best chance to change the way everyone thinks, which at this time has assumed a real urgency. So I do a lot on their behalf, including helping produce what will be the first really good documentary -- by the filmmaker who got an Oscar nomination for "WACO: The Rules of Engagement."
My other preoccupation these days is with the war. I have an extensive Website to try to rally the progressive community at The Conversation: Making Sense of These Times.
I heard from Doug regarding some swirling of grasses in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I was born and raised in Cambridge and know well the spot near the Charles River.
I've read all that is available on your Website. My, you are an interesting and busy individual! I agree with most of what you have to say. I say "most" because I have mixed feelings about wars, that is to say. It has been proving itself over time, that mankind is a warlike animal (and the deep thoughts rages, aggressions) are still coming through from our brain housing all that in its reptilian core, still active somewhat, though we live in "modern: times. There are those (peoples, countries) who have yet to catch up with the modern civilization, though we as Americans and Europeans consider ourselves civilized -- I don't believe we are. Hence, there are wars, wars and more wars. Will it ever end? I feel it won't until we can overcome the "reptilian" factor or we evolve somewhat differently, leaving that behind.
I love my country. (I enlisted in the USAF, which was then the Army, on August 8, 1950 -- Korean War broke out June 25, 1950). However, I do not agree with my country that we have to respond to the WTC bombing by bombing Afghanistan. I cannot tolerate our bombing of civilians.
Maybe people here in the U.S. and other countries should see to it that Third World countries are given all the necessary help needed to bring them into the 21st Century.
Who knows? Answers may lie in the crop circles!
Yes, I agree with everything you say -- you are 100%, with me. And with many people. Obviously not all. Humanity is still evolving, and not all at the same pace. There is still barbarism, but it is old -- reptilian, as you say. The tragedies brought about by unevolved monsters help to galvanize the moves forward by the rest. I learned in esoteric studies that Hitler was useful to human evolution to push us collectively beyond where we were. This, too, now -- only we may all go down this time, given how good we have gotten at weaponry. Please God we will survive this. How pathetic when we have the capacity for something paradisiacal on Earth that we must still grovel this way. It makes me sick to watch war as entertainment on TV, the horrors interspersed by jaunty commercials. There is something obscene about that. We tempered it for awhile after 9/11, but materialism is back in full view again. The rich just have to equalize things more if we are to survive. That is the big mandate now, and we still haven't even considered it. That scares me. We are not doing what we could. That's why I have my 9/11 site -- I can't stand how short sighted we are, and am just sputtering away trying to do whatever I can.
|Doug Rogers chimes in on Walter's comments:
I see someone is asking about crop circles in New England. Please pass along the fact that we've had very little activity in the fields here over the past decade. Since we have almost no grain farmers here, any ground designs would probably show up in grass. The closest crop designs, all outside of New England, have been found in New York and in Virginia. The New York design showed up in Mary Pyc's oatfield back on July 26,1993, Columbia, Herkimer County, where all the newspapers covered the story. The Virginia design arrived in grass just a couple of days before the S.S.E. (Society for Scientific Exploration ) held its annual meeting on the University of Virginia campus less than a mile away. That's about it for the entire East Coast.
I've seen pictures of the Charles River, with some two miles, as I recall, of these spirally circles. Isn't is something that things like this occur, there for all to see, yet there isn't official attention paid to try to figure out what's going on.
Background Crop Circle Diagrams © 1995 Peter R. Sorensen